Guys! did you see this article in TIME magazine?

[davey]

The article is about windows being a slow poke... you guys agree?

[DWells]

Didn't see it, but, yes I agree!

[DVD-Man]

Got any more detail of what they said?

[davey]

When a company's revenues grow 17%, as Microsoft's did in the past quarter, it might seem a little churlish to suggest its glory days are over. Its chairman, Bill Gates, even reclaimed his title as the world's richest man, after a widely published story claiming that the founder of Ikea had replaced him turned out to be so many Swedish meatballs. And Gates' baby, based in Redmond, Wash., is still by far the largest software maker in the world, with a healthy $56 billion in the bank and revenue conservatively expected to rise 5% next year, to about $38 billion. It has buried the hatchet with Sun... :twisted:

The complete article is 1600 words long.

[DWells]

Well, Microsoft sucks. And this safe zone and anti-piracy junk they want to put in LongHorn really pisses me off. I will honestly switch completely over to linux if that becomes the case.

[TechDude]

Over the years Microsoft became more concerned with the software piracy of their software, so they started doing all this junk. The old Microsoft cared about people, the new Microsoft just wants to make money!

[DWells]

The old Microsoft cared about people

NO they just did a better job making it seem that way. Come on MS you already have so mcuh money, deal with a little piracy!

[camperz0]

i would like to see microsoft do nothing more- maybe they could all retire and grow potatoes?

[DVD-Man]

The old Microsoft cared about people

NO they just did a better job making it seem that way. Come on MS you already have so mcuh money, deal with a little piracy!

They have full rights to protect their software; although I don't like what they did with XP with the one copy per PC thing. They should make it so the key can work on like 3 or so PC's.... it's just ridiculous they think people wanna pay huge amounts for OS's & everyone in the household has to buy their own copy.. one copy won't do one household anymore, don't agree with that!

[camperz0]

hmm...how do they know u havnt installed it more than once tohugh?

[DVD-Man]

hmm...how do they know u havnt installed it more than once tohugh?

Well with XP you have to activate it within like 21 days after purchasing it & I believe it will only accept the same reg key once.

[garnil]

i am using a second burnt xp and my friend has it and im doing fine, no probs

[TechDude]

Thats the thing, for some people it works from the first try and for some it takes a week to make it work.

[DVD-Man]

i am using a second burnt xp and my friend has it and im doing fine, no probs

I could comment on this but won't in the open forum. ;)

[DWells]

No, they're not just protecting their own software, they're making it so you can oly run applications that are part of a "Trusted Zone" and such.


TC provides a computing platform on which you can't tamper with the application software, and where these applications can communicate securely with their authors and with each other. The original motivation was digital rights management (DRM): Disney will be able to sell you DVDs that will decrypt and run on a TC platform, but which you won't be able to copy. The music industry will be able to sell you music downloads that you won't be able to swap. They will be able to sell you CDs that you'll only be able to play three times, or only on your birthday. All sorts of new marketing possibilities will open up.

TC will also make it much harder for you to run unlicensed software. In the first version of TC, pirate software could be detected and deleted remotely. Since then, Microsoft has sometimes denied that it intended TC to do this, but at WEIS 2003 a senior Microsoft manager refused to deny that fighting piracy was a goal: `Helping people to run stolen software just isn't our aim in life', he said. The mechanisms now proposed are more subtle, though. TC will protect application software registration mechanisms, so that unlicensed software will be locked out of the new ecology. Furthermore, TC apps will work better with other TC apps, so people will get less value from old non-TC apps (including pirate apps). Also, some TC apps may reject data from old apps whose serial numbers have been blacklisted. If Microsoft believes that your copy of Office is a pirate copy, and your local government moves to TC, then the documents you file with them may be unreadable. TC will also make it easier for people to rent software rather than buy it; and if you stop paying the rent, then not only does the software stop working but so may the files it created. So if you stop paying for upgrades to Media Player, you may lose access to all the songs you bought using it.


For more info, go to http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html .

[garnil]

I could comment on this but won't in the open forum

what i only gave em the windows as u would ur friends

[DWells]

Oh I know how. You activated one via Internet and the other via phone... that's what I did so my friend could install Word XP on his computer and his mom's computer, which they thought would come with it.

[DVD-Man]

I could comment on this but won't in the open forum

what i only gave em the windows as u would ur friends

Yes, yes.... I know, but you're saying that you have one copy of XP working on multiple installs & that is what I can't comment on in an open forum. I hope you follow me. :)

[DWells]

DVD-Man, did you read that article about LongHorn trusted computing? Scary, huh.

[DVD-Man]

The article referred to in this thread?

[DWells]

No, they're not just protecting their own software, they're making it so you can oly run applications that are part of a "Trusted Zone" and such.


TC provides a computing platform on which you can't tamper with the application software, and where these applications can communicate securely with their authors and with each other. The original motivation was digital rights management (DRM): Disney will be able to sell you DVDs that will decrypt and run on a TC platform, but which you won't be able to copy. The music industry will be able to sell you music downloads that you won't be able to swap. They will be able to sell you CDs that you'll only be able to play three times, or only on your birthday. All sorts of new marketing possibilities will open up.

TC will also make it much harder for you to run unlicensed software. In the first version of TC, pirate software could be detected and deleted remotely. Since then, Microsoft has sometimes denied that it intended TC to do this, but at WEIS 2003 a senior Microsoft manager refused to deny that fighting piracy was a goal: `Helping people to run stolen software just isn't our aim in life', he said. The mechanisms now proposed are more subtle, though. TC will protect application software registration mechanisms, so that unlicensed software will be locked out of the new ecology. Furthermore, TC apps will work better with other TC apps, so people will get less value from old non-TC apps (including pirate apps). Also, some TC apps may reject data from old apps whose serial numbers have been blacklisted. If Microsoft believes that your copy of Office is a pirate copy, and your local government moves to TC, then the documents you file with them may be unreadable. TC will also make it easier for people to rent software rather than buy it; and if you stop paying the rent, then not only does the software stop working but so may the files it created. So if you stop paying for upgrades to Media Player, you may lose access to all the songs you bought using it.


For more info, go to http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html .
^^^^^^^that one. For the full article, go here (http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html).

[DVD-Man]

They're planning on building that into Windows?

I don't know if I see that happening, that will open the door for other OS competitors to come in because of all the people that don't want that crap!

MS literally have a monopoly on OS's now, do you really think they wanna take a chance at losing any % of that?

[DWells]

It's already starting to be implemented. Microsoft didn't even deny it, in fact admitted to it at a more insiders-only conference. Like I said, they build this crap in, I'm going completely to Linux.

[DVD-Man]

I won't be using any OS with that crap in it anyime soon.

[DWells]

Like I said, it's going to be Linux time for me. I guarantee a good portion of gamers will be going to Linux if this crap gets thorugh into Longhorn, so companies will have to cater a bit more by having Linux versions of their games. And, you ca play a good portion of them with Winex.

[TechDude]

Damn, is Machintosh taking over! No, tell me IS MACHINTOSH TAKING OVER! NOOOOOOO! We can't let that happen!!!! lol (just playing)

[DWells]

NO, Linux will take over.

[TechDude]

Whew....... Thats better! lol